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[lolabobs]

Right then, I'm guessing White Collar is a new fandom for me, because not only am I watching it every night, I've started seeking fic and now I've bought and watched (and absolutely loved) Big Eden (initially) just because Tim DeKay is in it.

Oh Big Eden! What a glorious film. which was another wonderful film, which you should all watch because it's beautiful and poetic and slashy and painful.

Erm, but Big Eden - I watched it all the way through (well, I rewound one tiny scene and watched it again) I didn't pause it, or run off to imdb to check something, or just check lj or anything. All the way through, without distraction. Dean, Tim DeKay's character, was lovely and so pretty (he's got that slightly lipless mouth, which should be wierd, but isn't) and is so so lovely when he smiles. And he's huggy and touchy and it all seemed so natural - and I know I may be missing the point here, but at the end when he danced with the mayoress, he was so sexy.

And he kissed Henry and couldn't and was, oh, it's like all those fictions where 'he's not gay he's just Hutchesexual' or whatever. He loves henry Hart but couldn't go beyond that, and oh, they'd be so beautiful just touching and hugging and holding. (Again, I know I'm missing the point.)

Pike - Pike has wonderful hair, I wanted to stroke his hair, all wavy and wafty and yes. It's such a shame that when he and Henry finally kissed it was as wooden and stiff as anything. No physical chemistry. All the pre slash stuff, the aching looks, difficult conversation, pregnant pauses and ust - all there and present, but dancing and kissing at the end - stolid.

But the scene at the Thanksgiving table, with all those eyes across table and layers of meaning - that was wonderfully done. And poor Dean (I swear it's not just 'cos he's Tim DeKay and so pretty, he was such a sympathetic character) he loves Henry and wants to want him and trying. So willing to try and forgetting that Henry is at the end of those attempts, but right in how unfair it is for Henry to punish him because of it.

And that's the scene that I wanted, beyond any shallow desire for kissage and romance, I wanted Henry and Dean to have the conversation that followed that scene. The resolution - for Henry to see how much Dean loves him, to accept that he isn't trying to hurt him and that they can be okay.

Dean crying after seeing Henry and Pike talking? heartbreaking (and shallow Lola has to say, incredibly nice to look at.)

And to banish Shallow Lola - the scene with Henry and his Sampa, 'Have I taught you shame?' - broke my heart.



Oh, and I liked some of the art in the film too - and loved the soundtrack.

Comments

[smudley.livejournal.com]

{{HUGS}} What GORGEOUS commentary on Big Eden!! I'm soooo glad you enjoyed it. I just knew you would. And you echo so many of my thoughts on the film, which I have watched so many times I've lost count. THIS is the film I watch to remind myself that things WILL GET BETTER. I mean, this takes place in Montana, where LGBTQ people have pretty much NO rights. At all. And in this rural Montana town we have old cowboys going out of their way to support a shy gay friend, and an elderly church matriarch throwing an all-male "chess club" party to find Henry a guy. And don't even get me started on how much I LOVE the lesbian couple who sing in the church choir / play church organ, work at a hardware store, fire up the grill for a community picnic, and serve as paramedics. I want to be a part of a couple like that someday: involved in the community, accepted, leading a full life full of love. I KNOW the film has been called a "gay-topia" and whatnot, and yes, it's idealized, but I like to think of it as a snapshot of what we COULD be as a society in the future if we banish hatred and bigotry and just let people be people. And, oh hell yeah, I second and applaud everything you said about Dean and Henry!

[sc-fossil.livejournal.com]

I adore Big Eden. It's my all time fav film. Henry and Pike are so cute! Love it.

(I "sentinalized" it a long time ago just for fun. It's a super film.)

[smudley.livejournal.com]

{{HUGS}} And you did such a FABULOUS job with that sentinalization, too! :) :) Pike and Henry would be PROUD.

[sc-fossil.livejournal.com]

Thanks, sweetie. *smooch*

My second fav film is Latter Days.

[smudley.livejournal.com]

{{HUGS}} OMG, YES!! One of my favorite lines in the film? When Jacqueline Bisset's character tells Aaron that she can't imagine Heaven WITHOUT gay people and alcohol!! I swear, first time I ever watched that movie (and again, I've seen it too many times to count) I BROKE DOWN during the part after Aaron left for home, because I thought, well, you know, what the script writers wanted us to think, and it BROKE me. SO powerful.

[sc-fossil.livejournal.com]

We have good taste. :)

[lolabobs.livejournal.com]

Oh yes, I liked that too!

[sc-fossil.livejournal.com]

*nods*

I've gone through the entire Netflix catalogue. I do pass by the "death" movies (AIDS, bashing, etc). I know it's real life, but I want a romantic movie not a sad one.

[lolabobs.livejournal.com]

I really loved it. :)

(And I'm being dense, what do you mean 'sentinalized'? )

[smudley.livejournal.com]

You're NOT dense. LOL. Kat wrote a Sentinel fic in which she recast the movie using Jim and Blair from The Sentinel TV show, that's what "sentinalizing" means. :) :)

[lolabobs.livejournal.com]

Ah! Now I understand! Thanks :P


Also - Thanks so much for the recommendation for Big Eden in the first place - what a lovely film, and what a happy by product from a new fandom to find a film that's so utterly gorgeous and stands alone completely outside of that fandom.

Thank you thank you thank you!

[lydia-petze.livejournal.com]

I saw the other day you got into White Collar - it's a funny one for me, too. Not my hugest fandom by a long way, but one that never goes away, either. It stays consistently among my favourites - unlike H50 which went all wrong thanks to showrunners tinkering with it, WC knows it's doing it right and keeps on doing it! I've only ever read a handful of fics for it but I love that the fandom tends to find a way to make it either OT3 or work WITH the fact that Peter is deliriously happily married. How times have changed :)

I'd managed to see Big Eden before White Collar, I discovered it among a "Top 50 Gay Films" list on afterelton.com, so I was all, EEEE, it's Dean! when White Collar started. Oh, that crying scene. I always have to watch that a couple of times.

Matt Bomer is the prettiest, prettiest thing on television. Every time I see him I make *noises*. I can't help myself.

[lolabobs.livejournal.com]

I'm enjoying White Collar (especially now I have a new source for watching!) and I have to say in the season and a half I've viewed so far, it does seem to be consistent in its quality. Which is always a good thing! Fic is a mixed bag so far (I've gone early in one of the coms, so as not to be spoiled and I may have chosen the wrong one as so far it's been much more miss than hit) - but yes, noticeably no hate for El, no "She's a bitch" or has suddenly vanished - that's for the good.

Big Eden I'm still bouncy about, and may have watched my fave bits a couple or three times over...

Matt Bomer is *very* pretty, his eyes are astonishing and I'm very happy to spend any amount of time looking at him but Tim DeKay is winning my heart because he's so cute.

(I'm perservering with H50, and I think it's perked up a bit in the latest episodes - d/ling the finale as we speak!)

[lydia-petze.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the vote of confidence re H50, I might catch up now!

BTW, there are two really good gag reels out there for White Collar - season 2's has some especially fun moments :)

I pretty much love everyone in the show - Peter and Neal and El and Moz and Diana and June and Jones...EVERYONE <3

[lolabobs.livejournal.com]

I may have spoken a little too quickly re H50! The finale had... a few flaws. (it's so pretty though and fast and, but yeh, flaws)


I shall check out the gag reels for WC though :)

And yes, I was thinking about characters on shows and realised they were all rather likeable on WC

(Actually though, WC is not a good abbreviation, I think I'll stop that now!)

[lydia-petze.livejournal.com]

Actually though, WC is not a good abbreviation, I think I'll stop that now!

Yeah, I tend not to use it :)